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Thanks so much for the recipe suggestions, guys! I'm going to have to try some of them out on the weekends. :3

Anyway, I was going to make a journal about politics because of a video someone showed me, but I figured I'd do best not to open up that particular can of worms. Instead, I'll just link you to the video, so you can see why I don't want to talk about it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBH…

But that's not the point of this journal. What's the point then, you say? Well, see, I need your help...

So let's talk about zombies!

I know, totally serious.

Here's the deal: I want to write a zombie apocalypse story with kind of the same psychological themes found in Retaining Sanity. Psychology. I love it. People are so fascinating. And I love zombies. So put two and two together and I have a new hobby to take up time. But I'm sort of OCD about these things (I want to be a medical researcher, so there's a reason for it) and want to really know as much as I can about the genre before even thinking of making my own little niche in it, so I need some input! What I want to know is pretty much what any zombie apocalypse fan would want to know...what exactly do you think would happen in a real "zombie" apocalypse?

How would it start?

Where would it start?

What would it be (would it be something supernatural, a virus, a parasite, aliens, mind control, voodoo, mad cow disease, rabies, etc.)? How would it work?

How quickly would the world "end?" How quickly would whatever it is making zombies spread?

What would the zombies be like? Would they be "real" zombies? Would there be different types? Would they be fast or slow?

Who would the survivors be?

If there are survivors, what would they do? Where would they go?

...and pretty much anything else you'd like to mention. Anything and everything goes; I've already Googled the subject several times (and come across some pretty awesome and not-so-awesome websites), but I'm always up for more sources. And...now that I've totally scared you off with the insanity that is me, time to go scribble some more.
  • Mood: Joy
  • Reading: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
  • Watching: Doctor Who
  • Playing: Alien Swarm
  • Eating: Red Velvet Cake
  • Drinking: Milk
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Dezfezable Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
oh, forgot to mention: if ya wanna do "RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES!!" angle you could base your concept on whatever the HELL killed all those birds and fish. because it sure as hell wasn't natural and I doubt whatever was explained away with it really EXPLAINED anything. Adurhurhur.
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CheleKat Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I've watched enough Doctor Who to know that this is the work of aliens. :B
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Dezfezable Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
you are more than likely right, and clearly we need The Doctor to investigate this further!
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Dezfezable Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
a lot of what you are asking/describing really reminds me of "The Walking Dead" [link] it really touches on the actual SURVIVAL/APOCALYPSE angle of a zombie apocalypse, and the psychological and physical toll it would deal against anyone trying to live in it. Really great comic, and the show is pretty awesome too. ♥

As for your questions? I dunno how to really answer them sans look up actual disasters/devastating environmental/ecological situations that have occurred in real life. Earth quakes, tsunamis, hell even The Black Plague or Spanish Flu outbreak [which killed *more* people, if memory serves.] Or if you want truly global, research Krakatoa. tl/dr version: it was an isalnd that was actually a volcano that built up such immense pressure over so many years it exploded with such force it obliterated the entire island, caused mega tsunamis that devastated nearby islands, and if memory serves, initiated the "mini ice age" that affected the entire world and plunged it into bitter cold. [The year without a summer/"The Year Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death"] basically approach it as a real ecological disaster that may or may not work itself out within any of our lifetimes. [everything gets worked out eventually... even if it takes hundreds of thousands of years or lon ger... like the SUPER Mass extinction where the earth heated up, boiled the oceans, and killed roughly 95-99% of ALL LIFE ON THE PLANET. And then it got fixed and the dinosaurs took over. Wheee~]

but yeah... I think I just explained The Walking Dead with that. UH-OH. D:
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CheleKat Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with The Walking Dead. xD

I've looked at previous flu and sickness outbreaks, but then I realized that the only thing I could really work with is the Swine Flu outbreak--everything else is too out dated, even SARS. Technology has improved and expanded so much what with Facebook, Tumblr, YouTube, and smart phones that something like the Spanish Flu or the Black Plague back then probably wouldn't do as much damage nowadays since security with these things is so tight and news is so easy to get quickly across. Thanks for the reminder about Krakatoa! I remember hearing about it (probably on the Discovery or History channel lol) ages ago, but I totally forgot. Very interesting. Thank you for the summary of it.

And actually...I'm kind of thinking about working in a more typical natural disaster or two (an earthquake and possibly something else) that would possibly directly and definitely indirectly contribute to the zombie outbreak, so this is all very helpful. :)
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Dezfezable Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
haha no problem, though when I mentioned spanish flu/black plague I meant back when they hit originally and the devastation it caused. ^^;; And no prob about Krakatoa, it's an insane event in history and it's definitely fascinating to read up on. :D
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Dancing-in-Firelight Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
BEGIN RANT-

Not sure if someone else will of has mentioned this already...
But honestly, how would it be spread?
I personally love the infection/sickness take on it, because then you have the opportunity of survivors.
Like, say some people would have some kind of dormant gene that makes them immune to getting this specific kind of sickness, whether it be by bite or airborn disease.
Much similiar to how the swine flu spread about 2 years ago. Most of the population had it at least once, but there were a select few that were exposed, but never got it.
If it were like that, then there would be a very small portion of the population left, like saying someone would get ride of anyone who doesn't have brown hair and green eyes. (Sounds a bit like a neo-holocaust)
Then there's the case of how well the zombies (or infected XD) move. I think it would mostly depend on the wellness of the person before they got sick.
Hahaha, this is sounding A LOT like Left 4 Dead....
But then, if the population were lucky, the medical specialists that survived would be doing everything they could to 'save the world', and not focusing on saving their own lives.
And then you have the few survivors that just go completely insane. Reminds me of 'The Book of Eli' where there were some people that just went plain insane and started inviting others in and eating them.... but that's not where I was going with that.
Some of the survivors would be able to stand the mental strain of killing loved ones and people they don't even know. So they would slowly fall into a mental and emotional decay.
Then you havethe others that CAN deal with it, say some members of the military branches that would be used to that kind of thing.
Then there's another question-
Would the disease only stay in the United States, or could it spread to the rest of the world?
I think, the survivors that don't contract the disease, could possibly be carriers, in the sense that if they went to a non-exposed part of the world, because they are carrying the disease, it would spread to that area. Is that kinda clear?

Anyway, I just wanted to put in a little rant, that may show you that other people may be on your page about this whole thing. ^_^
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CheleKat Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yes! I've given much thought to the spreading of the zombie "disease" since mine is being based on a virus combined with a parasite--the virus spreads like the normal flu, but if the victim catches the virus first, then they start at stage one sickness, which is just normal sickness. Stage three is when they actually turn into aggressive, rabid creatures due to the virus interacting with a parasite already in their body, and that can only be spread through bodily fluids...yeah okay I've been thinking too much about it.

And yes, the carrier theory is very clear; kind of like Left 4 Dead in the comic, but that's technically true for any disease so very believable.

Thank you for the rant! I loved reading it--if you come up with anything more, let me know! :)
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Dancing-in-Firelight Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, I really like the 'stages' idea...
I can just imagine the CDC (which, as a fun fact I discovered yesterday, is right down the road from me) posting a huge poster on every corner about the different stages of these so-called 'zombies'. XD
As soon as I get back into the groove of thinking about the zombies themselves (instead of my survival plan), I'll be sure to let you know about anything cool I can come up with!~ :iconiloveitplz:
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CheleKat Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha well, a survival plan will most likely suit you better in the future, BUT it is quite fun to talk about the actual zombies. xD

And oh the CDC. Just don't get sick near them.
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