Thanks so much for the recipe suggestions, guys! I'm going to have to try some of them out on the weekends. :3
Anyway, I was going to make a journal about politics because of a video someone showed me, but I figured I'd do best not to open up that particular can of worms. Instead, I'll just link you to the video, so you can see why I don't want to talk about it!
[link]But that's not the point of this journal. What's the point then, you say? Well, see, I need your help...
So let's talk about zombies!
I know, totally serious.
Here's the deal: I want to write a zombie apocalypse story with kind of the same psychological themes found in Retaining Sanity. Psychology. I love it. People are so fascinating. And I love zombies. So put two and two together and I have a new hobby to take up time. But I'm sort of OCD about these things (I want to be a medical researcher, so there's a reason for it) and want to really know as much as I can about the genre before even thinking of making my own little niche in it, so I need some input! What I want to know is pretty much what any zombie apocalypse fan would want to know...what exactly do you think would happen in a
real "zombie" apocalypse?
How would it start?
Where would it start?
What would it be (would it be something supernatural, a virus, a parasite, aliens, mind control, voodoo, mad cow disease, rabies, etc.)? How would it work?
How quickly would the world "end?" How quickly would whatever it is making zombies spread?
What would the zombies be like? Would they be "real" zombies? Would there be different types? Would they be fast or slow?
Who would the survivors be?
If there are survivors, what would they do? Where would they go?
...and pretty much anything else you'd like to mention. Anything and everything goes; I've already Googled the subject several times (and come across some pretty awesome and not-so-awesome websites), but I'm always up for more sources. And...now that I've totally scared you off with the insanity that is me, time to go scribble some more.
In afraid of the CDC... I have some weird feeling that the CDC and FEMA would end up trying to control the situation, much like CEDA did in Left 4 Dead, and fail miserably.
I don't think a zombie would be able to run. It's a simple matter of brain and muscle decay. Death screws up your body pretty bad. The only way that zombies could run is by supernatural means or if they aren't REALLY zombies, but infected. And the only way that the virus could infect a large enough body of people would be if it had an incubation period that was long enough that it could be misunderstood to be less than it is. It would also need to be transmitted through close contact, or even proximity, much like a bad cold.
But honestly, I don't think about that too much. I feel like if there were running "zombies," we'd pretty much be royally screwed, so I think about the shambling apocalypse. I concern myself by thinking of how humanity would be in such a situation.
I was in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. I've seen first-hand how terrible people can be when there is no law: looting, rape, murder - and not necessarily in that order. That was just a natural disaster. No rotting sacks of infected flesh roaming the streets, seeking a way to spread the infection further; just other people. Now if you throw the zombies in there, you've got... what was the scientific term for it? Oh yes, a shitstorm.
Most people will lose their humanity without even becoming zombies. In my belief, that is actually somewhat necessary in order to cope with the changes inherent in a zombie apocalypse. Your mind will shut off its rational responses to irrational situations. You won't think to yourself that you just "hacked a small child, who was trying to bite your face off, in half." You don't think about it until you are safe, and the realization of what you have done can have adverse effects on your mental health. Honestly, I would likely be in that category of people who have "become numb to the voices." Meaning I could easily ignore pleas for help, and would have no problem killing zombies and people who have been bitten (though at the moment, this one seems like it would be a problem), but would do almost anything in the name of self-preservation. Personally, I don't think I need to rape people to survive, so... I won't be doing that, but murder and looting? You have to keep an open mind. After all, isn't killing someone who just got bitten still considered murder?
The people who survive are those whose minds are stable and/or are used to killing others, like soldiers. Guns would have to be last resort weapons because there are no magical infinite ammo pistols or stacks of assorted ammo that you could scavenge from. Not only this, but guns are loud... and loud means more zombies come. However you don't want to get too close with a melee weapon or else... well, yeah. Generally, survivors would just want to avoid the zombies, as even a splash of blood in the face might infect you.
A small group is absolutely necessary, because you can't see everything around you at once, but traveling with family members would make it much more difficult than you would expect. Granny got bitten, but doesn't want to worry her grandchildren, so she says nothing. Then she turns and bites their parents, who in turn infect their children. Game over.
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I think humanity would, as a whole, go insane. Sure, there would be a few idealists out there who would try to help everyone as much as they can; but you'd be hard pressed to find em.
IF you want to talk about it more (and I totally could) we could do so in some chat room or on steam or something if you have steam. Cuz honestly, now that I'm on the topic, I don't want to stop talking about it. But I will, for your sake.
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Great points here, especially the mental attributes--I personally think I'd also be one of the people who could get by pretty easily with having to kill other people. My profession has kind of gotten me used to death and morbidity quite a bit; it doesn't bother me that much anymore. Sad but true.
Also, great point about the guns--I think that's what bothered me about Left 4 Dead, that a pipe bomb could gather a horde in no time flat, but a bunch of guns going off don't do squat until an event has been instigated.
And...the zombie cause for my zombies so far is an unstable virus. Lol yay viruses. xD And it certainly has a long incubation period so it can be mistaken for another strain of the flu. And I believe it interacts with a parasite that is found within the majority of the human population or something. I don't know. But yes.
Thanks much for the input! Keep up with the long comments if you would like, I do like reading them. :3
Much like in your fanfic, Retaining Sanity, survivors could survive on their own, but it would have an extremely detrimental effect on their mental condition. Even to the point of schizophrenia due to loneliness. Humans are social creatures, so we crave SOME sort of social interaction on even the lowest level.
In fact, a thought that just occurred to me is that cases of schizophrenia would pop up all over the place. Through personal experience, I can tell you that your mind can create separate personalities in order to preserve your original mental state. I'm not sure if this is a clinical truth, but this is an observation I have made. It preserves your original sanity by convincing you that you aren't the one doing these terrible things or seeing these horrifying events. I have a friend who I believe suffers from this after a series of traumatic events in his childhood (I also should say at this point, that this is entirely based off of observation. I haven't done any research into this or anything; and as a high school student, I'm not sure how much this input can be taken to heart.)
I have not had anything happen to me to create this symptom, though I can tell you that there have been times when I felt I was not entirely in control of my own actions. Often times, unfortunately and admittedly, this involved violence on a large scale. This could be another response to a zombie apocalypse, due to the sheer amount of violence and gore inherent with zombies.
Even those with the strongest of minds might be affected by the apocalypse. A general feeling of mistrust among other humans would become inherent to everybody, leading people to preemptively kill others out of simple suspicion. This is part of the reason why I, personally, would go somewhere in the middle of nowhere where there is low population density. Like the woods in Mississippi. There is plenty of wildlife to keep a small group alive and small population density would mean extremely low chance of running into zombies.
Strange as it sounds, I think I would go totally medieval mode in a zombie apocalypse. I'm gonna use a machete(since it requires little sharpening) and a riot shield (which I already own cuz I bought it from a police surplus store shutupI'mnormal).
However, there is another way in which I believe my mind would be capable of breaking; and that way is shown in my L4D fanfic (which I will not finish due to lack of motivation). The character, Errol, starts off perfectly sane, however after he is left behind during an attempted rescue, he loses it. He takes on the philosophy that he is already a dead man, so he might as well have as much fun as possible while he can. This involves running from insanely large crowds of infected and special infected, and going on infected killing sprees. I think this is the other way I could go if I do not keep my sanity in an apocalypse.
In fact, multiple times I have thought of having a huge rave in the middle of the zombie apocalypse, killing zombies with strobe lights and lasers and such while a hard bass beats. Obviously, this is an extremely suicidal way of dealing with a zombie apocalypse, but I think it would be fun until the whole death and maybe even un-death... thing... yeah, better keep a pistol with a bullet in the chamber.
I can't say this is how most people would react, since as far as I can tell, I am VERY different from most of society these days. In fact, I would even go so far as I hate society and the people who make up society... but hey, that's part of what makes me me. I can put on a great front for most people who think they "know me."
Great point with the schizophrenia thing. That's something I'm going to try to work in a bit more with the main character of my zombie story. It makes great sense! It certainly wouldn't apply to everyone, but it would happen to a few people; good enough observation for me!
And this sort of insight into how people work is exactly what I'm looking for; people are such interesting creatures. Always so different in personalities, but in the end with a zombie apocalypse, there's really only a few ways for them to truly end up. Thanks (and still keep going if you feel like it)!
Stock up on your Zombie movies (i'm sure you already have) and remember that the zombies are typically not the plot, they are the plot tools. Like, Zombieland is about family (true family, not blood family), Wolrd War Z is a political/social commentary on how self destructive we are as a species, (keeping with comedy movies because I'm really too tired right now to think beyond them) Shaun of the Dead is about living your life while you have it.... I'm rambling about what you already know. Sorry.
I am so tiredLook up diseases and such and also how the whole death process works. Also, these could be good for killing plotholes; [link] and [link] why Zompocalypses are possible and how they could fail (the last one is variable because it focuses on the undead as opposed to infected).
I'm sorry if I made no sense here. I'm really sleepy for some reason... If I'm not dead in tomorrow or the day after I'll throw some more nonsense at you because I've got tons more where this came from! XDD Good luck with research.
Quite familiar with the zombie movies, gotta love them. More difficult to see into a person's mind, though, and yet they do leave lasting impressions since part of my brain tends to favor images more than words.
And you've made great sense, thanks! Especially for that last link, that's exactly what I'm looking for...what doesn't make sense in the zombie apocalypse theory. Thank you! :3
Supernatural zombies are the only ones I can see not having the um...rotting to bits and not being able to move problem. Or the problem of being a mindless, shuffling mess that can't get past basic obstacles, like a stack of sand bags.
Plus being able to only transfer the disease through biting? Not very efficient...
...I haven't thought about this too much. Really.